Poll: Would you install a tube style bumper or a covered?
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Tube bumper w/exposed winch
14.29%
1 14.29%
Tube bumper w/hidden winch
0%
0 0%
Covered bumper w/exposed winch
71.43%
5 71.43%
Covered bumper w/hidden winch
14.29%
1 14.29%
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#27
Here is a bumper design that is light and will let air flow. I'm sure Eric can improve it and put a winch mount on it.


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#28
naturalbornmudder Wrote:this is what I was keying in on. What I should stress is to eliminate the stock electric completely and go with 2 smaller fans side by side, and work your fan shroud to be a little more restrictive.

What do you mean by restrict the fan shroud more? Also in doing this, would I still have the clutch fan too? If not, would that mean replacing the water pump too or would that fan just br detached?

Mike, I saw a WJ with something like this in the photos that woody posted in past rides down in AZ. I like the idea.

I'd like to see the differences to mount each one, i.e. cost, who'd like to fab one for it, what other mods might be needed for each.
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#29
I am pretty sure a tube one would be cheaper than a solid one. NBM, Holeski or Mousee can jump in at this point... They are the experts. I am just going off my limited experience. Also, I'm thinking that if you remove the fan shroud, it'll increase air flow, but I could be wrong. (just watch your fingers! :allrighty: )
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#30
As far as mods for each, here's my experience
My ZJ needs the charcoal canister relocated after my custom bumper. It's uber exposed, right infront of the driver's tire. Honestly, it was in the same spot with tthe stock bumper, but now I can see it, and it worries me.
Michael lost hiw wiper fluid bottle with his buimper upgrade. AFAIK, he hasn't relocated it yet.
:2cents:
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#31
The fan shroud aids cooling. It directs the airflow towards the radiator instead of letting it blow all over the place.
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#32
sevenslats Wrote:he hasn't relocated it yet.:2cents:

Not yet. In the works.

sevenslats Wrote:The fan shroud aids cooling. It directs the airflow towards the radiator instead of letting it blow all over the place.

Like I said, I could be wrong. I was guessing.
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#33
This full bumper in the same pics has holes on the bottom side. I wonder if it was custom for the same reason with the overheating.....
[Image: 100_0686.jpg]

I really like this one cause it is quite similar to what I was wanting and it looks like it might keep me from having the overheating problem.
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#34
Here's the other one I like, but it's on a ZJ not a WJ.....
[Image: 10006471qo.jpg]

Thanks Woody for the pics.
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#35
I'm not a big fan of tube bumpers, but it's not my rig we're talking about here. That first one looks like a Trail Ready bumper.
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#36
sevenslats Wrote:I'm not a big fan of tube bumpers, but it's not my rig we're talking about here. That first one looks like a Trail Ready bumper.

I like the first one more myself. I know its not the ARB, but I can't find anyone else on the net that makes them for the WJ. I think this one would work perfect. Guess I'll really have to put NMB's or Holeski's skills to the test. Almost forgot Mousee. It even wraps around the headlight like I want.
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#37
holeproof tube bumper would look wicked
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#38
28this Wrote:This full bumper in the same pics has holes on the bottom side. I wonder if it was custom for the same reason with the overheating.....
[Image: 100_0686.jpg]

I really like this one cause it is quite similar to what I was wanting and it looks like it might keep me from having the overheating problem.


This is a TR bumper and it was damaged at the first rock we came to this weekend. It sticks out soo much his 32" tires lost a lug and it bent the bumper to a point we had to get a hammer on it and bend it back. He's going to trim it some to keep that from happening in the future.
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#39
Well that sucks. Maybe have one fabbed similar but reinfoced better, if I don't go for the tube style, especially since I haven't seen a WJ with a tube style yet. I like originality.
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#40
Go see Holeproof or NBM. Really good work coming out of holeproof lately:bowdown: I am pretty much out of the picture for fab work, I have too much to do before I leave. But I can still order things... in fact I need to update vendors thingy...
AAAnyway, chat with those two guys.
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#41
28this Wrote:Yes, and I saw what a concrete barrier at 15mph can do to (the Topless X) it too. Plus I like to be original so I wanted to see what could be done.

It doesn't matter if you build the baddest bumper on the planet using heat-treated/cryo'd unobtainium. If you hit a concrete barrier at 15MPH, the bumper may survive, but your jeep's unibody will crumple like aluminum foil.

Also, I recommend not "hiding" the winch. It makes untangling cable and any field repairs too much of a PITA.
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#42
IMO : I like the tube bumpers better... and I'm pretty sure they can be made for a lot cheaper.. and probably a lot faster..
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#43
I'm starting to like the tube idea more. Been surfin the net for pics and haven't really found any WJ's with tube bumpers, especially winch mountable.
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#44
I just did another mach up, tube style, with a mounting plate for a winch and a front type skid plate that is covered but with holes to keep my jeep from overheating. Still need to put two recovery points on it somewhere and a place to mont my drive lights even if they are not the factory ones, the wiring is there and I'd like to use it. What's your opinions on this one? And yes I did this one with a stinger.....
[Image: TubeMachFront.jpg]

Red and green would be across the top. The gray would run under the green. Pink at an angle with skid plate.
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#45
you should make one that has that actual coloring....that would be pimp. :p
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#46
Back in the day, I might have. If I did it now, I'd have to do the whole Jeep that way. Here's what would happen next......................
:wife: :wife: :wife:
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#47
28this Wrote:I just did another mach up, tube style, with a mounting plate for a winch and a front type skid plate that is covered but with holes to keep my jeep from overheating. Still need to put two recovery points on it somewhere and a place to mont my drive lights even if they are not the factory ones, the wiring is there and I'd like to use it. What's your opinions on this one? And yes I did this one with a stinger.....
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Red and green would be across the top. The gray would run under the green. Pink at an angle with skid plate.

Seems to me, that instead of 4 tubes, 1 piece of flat stock could encompass the main structure of that.
But, if you have your heart set on tube, don't let me talk you out of it. Perhaps a side view would allow me to see exactly what you have inmind.
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#48
Will see if I have a side pick that I can do a mock up of. If I am picturing like you suggest with the flat stock, it's because of the overheating issue earlier in the thread. If not, do you have any similar pics of what you suggest? I'd like to see. That's why I started this thread. I like to be original, but am open to ideas to make it look and perform the best.
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#49
sevenslats Wrote:Seems to me, that instead of 4 tubes, 1 piece of flat stock could encompass the main structure of that.
But, if you have your heart set on tube, don't let me talk you out of it. Perhaps a side view would allow me to see exactly what you have inmind.

This is the best I can do with my software. Tried to make it look 3D as best as possible. Some from front angle not noticeable in this side pic if you think 3D. Would like red and white tubes a little more straight across the front to help square up with the winch mount plate. Here it is.....
[Image: LTFRTbumpermockup.jpg]

Added tow point this time too. Want one the same on the other side. Still need somewhere to mount drive lights too. Doesn't have to be the factory lights, but I want to use the factory harness. They are currently located below the red tube part almost directly in front of the tire. I believe you can see them in the front shot in the thread above.

Figured I'd repost the front pick here also so you don't have to scroll up and down the page...
[Image: TubeMachFront.jpg]
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#50
I do like that.

Where's holeski for an estimate? NBM? Kev? who wants to get this WJ on the trail?
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#51
I don't really like tubes, so Holeski said he'd work with me to build one that doesn't have exposed tubes.

Never seen a tube bumper on a WJ, so I can't really give an accurate opinion.
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#52
Airmanwoody Wrote:Never seen a tube bumper on a WJ, so I can't really give an accurate opinion.

I wasn't sure myself until I did that side view. Also like you said above, I agree. Haven't seen a WJ with tubes yet. I like original, I think it will look mean and I think I'll have less worry about tire rubbing also.

Opinions are thoughts and feelings of an individual so I dont think they would be accurate or inaccurate.

You know ARB makes a bumper for yours too. Trailready does also. I'll try and send or post some pics for you.

Trailready...
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ARB...
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