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Stampede Road - after the Feb trip - holeski - 13 Feb 07
This is all the same info we are finding. Typically the NPS revises to acknowledge the RS2477, but that donât make it illegal to be on. I wouldnât fight it so much if the Mayor of Healy didnât tell me the Park Rangers would try all this and say exactly what they are says with no real proof. To start with we can clear and run the trail anytime of the year up to the bus. We need to get the brush cut back so it is pleasant to travel. While we are doing that we need to start writing letters to the Mayor of Healy and Palin saying there is a RS2477 trail we would like to travel but are being threatened with legal actions if we do. Heather and I will be writing a letter to the New Miner here in Fairbanks. Also we will be taking to her brother Michael Dukes and see about getting it on his radio show. He loves stuff like this. Our user group has this conversation going on two Alaskan forums. We have the numbers to fight this, we need as many people we can to get involved and send letters or they will think itâs only a small handful and toss our wants and needs to the side. Get involved these trails are your lands.
Stampede Road - after the Feb trip - holeski - 13 Feb 07
David M. Talerico Mayor of Healy
Denali Borough
PO Box 480
Healy, AK 99743
Phone (907) 683-1330
Fax (907) 683-1340
dbgovt@mtaonline.net
Let him know you and others like you are in support of keeping the Stamped trail system open to all user groups but are particle interested in off-road and 4x4 vehicles (ORV). Let him know that Pete Armington the Chef Ranger at Denali is threatening you with legal actions if we follow the trail to the mine.
Stampede Road - after the Feb trip - SHoppe715 - 13 Feb 07
Along with sending individual letters we should draft a letter, have all club members sign it, and send it on behalf of AO.
A talented computer wizz and I'm sure we have 1 or 2 in our ranks could create some professional looking stationery with a club letterhead and slip some Tread Lightly into the design.
We could also send all this info to Tread Lightly and see if they as a nationwide, higly esteemed landuse organization would also send correspondence to Gov Palin's office.
Stampede Road - after the Feb trip - TJVigilante - 13 Feb 07
It was brought up at a prior meeting that multiple copies/letters is more effective than a single envelope with a letter with a bunch of signatures. Fill their boxes, they'll get the hint.
Stampede Road - after the Feb trip - holeski - 13 Feb 07
A club letter is good but extra name on it realy do nothing.
Oh and this thread dosn't show up on the main page so no one is checking it.
Stampede Road - after the Feb trip - akjeep - 13 Feb 07
Unfortunately, it's looking like this is a new can of worms to be opened, and no one is going to have a "correct" answer for whether or not it is legal to be on the "road" through the park sections. No one will have the answer until someone gets caught bak there and it goes to court. I was pretty sure there would be some precedent set concerning someone operating a motor vehicle along a previously charted road in a natl park, but I haven't been able to find anything in the limited time I looked. Maybe someone with a little more time (and a law library) can research further.
Probably until there is a specific case to cite, there's gonna be a bunch of interagency finger pointing and head scratching. Just to cover their own butts, each will tell us just not to go there to be safe.
That's my take on it anyway...
Stampede Road - after the Feb trip - holeski - 13 Feb 07
You should have come with us Dave.
Stampede Road - after the Feb trip - TJVigilante - 13 Feb 07
Ha! Shoulda taken the deuce. :p
Stampede Road - after the Feb trip - holeski - 15 Feb 07
So far I have been to DNR in Fairbanks and the new NPS in fairbanks, still have the puplic lands office downtown and BLM. I have some good info, none of it I can bring to light yet. Kelly get with me if you still want to get together friday night.
Stampede Road - after the Feb trip - akjeep - 19 Feb 07
holeski Wrote:You should have come with us Dave.
Sheesh. Tell me about it.
You've no idea.
Stampede Road - after the Feb trip - Darkchild1723 - 28 Feb 07
Found this on the DNR WebsiteThe act granted a public right-of-way across unreserved federal land to guarantee access as land transferred to state or private ownership. Rights-of-way were created and granted under RS 2477 until its repeal in 1976. In Alaska, federal land was "reserved for public uses" in December 1968, with passage of PLO 4582, also known as the "land freeze." This date ends the window of RS 2477 qualification in Alaska.http://www.dnr.state.ak.us/mlw/trails/rs2477/